Thursday, June 9, 2011

Arjuna vs Karna Who is greater warrior


Arjuna is the greatest warrior in Mahabharata after Lord Krishna. In his name itself there is undefeatable (Jishnu).

Reasons Why Arjuna is better warrior than Karna:
1) Karna tried to imprison Drupada with help of Kauravas and their army but he retreated. Where as Arjuna defeated and brought Drupada before Drona

2) Karna was defeated by Arjuna during Draupadi swayamvar.

3) Karna was defeated by Gandharvas and ran away from battlefield leaving Duryodhana to Gandharvas. He was not drunk at that time. Arjuna defeated Gandharvas and released Duryodhana from their hands

4) Arjuna single handedly defeated Bhishma,Drona, Karna , Kripa, Aswathama, Duryodhana in virata yudh and spared their lives

5) In Mahabharata in one instance Arjuna shot an asthra that would kill Karna But Aswathama saves Karna with his counter asthra.

6) Karna relied on shakti weapon to kill Arjuna. But Arjuna relied on his prowess and strength.

7) Karna was defeated by Bhima many times and ran away from battlefield. Once Karna won against Bhima by hiding in his chariot. Bhima got a chance to kill Karna with his fists but remembering Arjuna's vow did not kill him. Bhima also challenged Karna to a wrestling duel but Karna fearing defeat declined the challenge and went away.

8) Arjuna did not use pasupathasthra against Karna. Pasupathasthra would have destroyed complete kaurava army in single day.

9) Arjuna defeated Lord Indra at khandava vanam.

10) Karna was defeated 2 times by Ahimanyu and ran away from battlefield. It was Karna who asks Drona how to kill Abhimanyu  with deceit.

11) On 17th Day Bhima  vowed to kill Karna and almost would have killed him had not Shalya stopped him and remembered him of Arjuna's vow.

12) Karna was defeated by Satyaki. Satyaki did not kill Karna remembering Arjuna's vow

In BR Chopra Mahabharata it is shown as Karna spared Arjuna's life because of sunset. This is not true. I have read the ved vyas Mahabharata. You can find it here "http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/maha/index.htm". There is no instance in Mahabharata where Karna defeats Arjuna

Reasons why Arjuna is greater than Karna as a person
1) Arjuna never cheated his guru. Karna did by telling he was brahmin.

2) Arjuna never insulted woman. Karna did by calling Draupadi a whore. Karna was the one who encourages Dushashana to disrobe Draupadi

3) Arjuna did not cheat for winning, Karna did by attacking Abhimanyu from behind and breaking his bow.

4) Arjuna never boasted about himself. Karna boasted every time that he would kill Arjuna

5) Arjuna is perfect example of best student. There is Arjuna award no Karna award

Though I have to admit that Karna is also a great warrior though inferior to Arjuna. Karna is great soul in some aspects by giving to brahmins whatever they ask

Arjuna is greatest warrior and always virtuous soul. He was always following the righteous path. He is incarnation of Nara( a part of Lord Vishnu himself).

Arjuna is definitely better warrior than Karna. Arjuna defeated Karna many times in war like virata parva, on Jayadrathas death day etc. Karna ran away from battle field many times. But Arjuna has not run away from battle field even once.

Karna was defeated by Bhima many times and ran away from battlefield. Modern TV serials and movies have made Karna the greatest warrior though he is not.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

That was a great reserch. I always believe Arjuna was Better than That Evil Karna. But today's world where all the Villians are recognised better than heroes No one will understand this fact. Karna has all the sympathy of people because some so called injustice happened to him thats why people forgot what actualy he had done.. He had done only and only evil deeds all his life. He was no less that Duryodhana. Dont make him hero. He was no match to Great Arjuna,.

Hectacon said...

(1) First to praise one is not when he deserved that is welcomed but not by degrading another great character.
The Great Arjuna didn't defeat his grandfather Bhisma in Virat war. Ofcourse he defeated The other Maharathis namely Dronacharya, Karna and Aswathama which is exceptional and unimaginable. Bhisma knew the exact mantras to counter Sanmohan Astra. Bhisma was so pleased to see his favourite son that he didn't want just embraced Arjun,who was more dear to him than his own life.
(2) Bhisma singlehandely defeated all the pandavas including Abhimanyu ,Bhimsen,Satyaki and Ghatokacha on 9th day of war. Arjuna himself admitted that he capable of resisting Bhisma but it was very tough for him to neutralised the great warrior "fairly". And don't forget Arjuna had(1) Gandiv
(2) Horses which multiple times faster than other normal chariot
(3) Inexhaustible arrows
(4) And a Chariot which can't be destroyed becs his Chariot was protected by Lord Hanuman and whose Charioteer was the Almighty. s welcomed but not by degrading another great character.
The Great Arjuna didn't defeat his grandfather Bhisma in Virat war. Ofcourse he defeated The other Maharathis namely Dronacharya, Karna and Aswathama which is exceptional and unimaginable. Bhisma knew the exact mantras to counter Sanmohan Astra. Bhisma was so pleased to see his favourite son that he didn't want just embraced Arjun,who was more dear to him than his own life.
(2) Bhisma singlehandely defeated all the pandavas including Abhimanyu ,Bhimsen,Satyaki and Ghatokacha on 9th day of war. Arjuna himself admitted that he capable of resisting Bhisma but it was very tough for him to neutralised the great warrior "fairly". And don't forget Arjuna had(1) Gandiv
(2) Horses which multiple times faster than other normal chariot
(3) Inexhaustible arrows
(4) And a Chariot which can't be destroyed becs his Chariot was protected by Lord Hanuman and whose Charioteer was the Almighty.

vamsi krishna said...

Hectagon,
this is vamsi. I did not degrade Bhishma. Bhishma had isha mrithyu. So Arjuna could not kill him fairly. You said Bhishma liked Arjuna. But Arjuna also liked Bhishma so he did not use his full power.

ram bhavesh sharan said...

yes there were many incidents which proves arjun a better warrior than karan. arjun was better human being as well.but i dont understand people keep on claiming karan as better warrior

Anonymous said...

Arjuna clearly defeated Bhishma not only in Virat yudh, but also in Kurukshetra war. In Mahabharata war also at one occasion Arjuna successfully checked Bhishma's advance and cut down 3 bows. Arjuna killed his charioteer. In last encounter also he showed no mercy o Arjuna and other warriors. He only avoided Shikhandi. On 10 day Bhishma fall, when Arjuna shattered all the weapons of Bhishma before killing him. Maharathis like Drona, Ashwatthama, Shalya etc was there to protect Bhishma with a larger army than Pandavas.

Sachin said...

Arjun defeated Karna 7 times in Mahabharat.....

Hene Arjun is better than Karna.....

Akshadh Katyal said...

For all karna's Fans:

(SOURCE-TRANSLATION OF ORIGINAL MAHABHARAT OF VYAS BY KESARI MOHAN GANGULY
& WHICH IS THE ONLY PRECISE TRANSLATION AVAILABLE ON PUBLIC DOMAIN):



Incident 1:Karna fled rom battlefield from Arjuna(Virata Yudh):

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04060.htm




Incident 2:Karna defeated by Gandharwa chitrasena:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03239.htm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03240.htm




Incident 3:Arjuna defeat Ghandarwas & rescued Duryodhan & kurus:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03243.htm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03244.htm



Incident 4:Karna defeated & freightened by Abhimanyu in chakruvyuhu:

Hearing these words, Karna, afflicted with the shafts of Arjuna's son, once more said unto Drona, 'Exceedingly afflicted with the shafts of Abhimanyu, I am staying in battle, only because (as a warrior) I should stay here. Indeed, the arrows of this south of great energy are exceedingly fierce. Terrible as they are and possessed of the energy of fire, these arrows are weakening my heart.'

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07045.htm




What Karna's own friend Ashwathama & kripacharya think of karna:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04049.htm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04050.htm




what Lord Krishna think of karna's bravery:

Krishna said(To Arjuna):.I swear by Truth to thee, O friend, that my limbs are burning at the thought that while the son of Subhadra was thus advancing, consuming the hostile army with his shafts, even on that occasion the wicked-souled Karna was engaged in acts of hostility to that hero,Unable, O Partha, to stay in that battle before Abhimanyu's face, mangled with the shafts of Subhadra's son, deprived of consciousness, and bathed in blood, Karna drew deep breaths, inflamed with rage. At last, afflicted with arrows, he was obliged to turn his back upon the field.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08073.htm



& Finally karna himself accepting Arjuna's supeority:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08079.htm




FINAL KARNA ARJUNA BATTLE(DAY 17 OF MAHABHARATA):


http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08089.htm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08091.htm

ACCORDING TO MY ANALYSIS OF THIS TRANSLATION IN THE FINAL BATTLE OF MAHABHARATA,ARJUNA & KARNA ASSAULTED EACH OTHER 35 TIMES WITH NUMEROUS, THOUSANDS & LAKHS OF ARROWS ………8 TIMES THEY NULLIFIED EACH OTHER ARROWS ,12 TIMES BOTH KARNA & ARJUNA PIERCED EACH OTHER BUT THE REMAINING 15 TIMES ARJUNA PIERCED KARNA IN EVERY PART OF HIS BODY & KARNA’S LIMBS,YOKE,STANDARD,STEEDS,CHARIOT WERE RIPPED APART & KARNA WAS LEFT MANGLED BATHED IN BLOOD & KARNA HAD NO ANSWER FOR ARJUNA’S ARROWS!!!



Authenciaty of vyas original mahabharat by km ganguly:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/maha/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisari_Mohan_Ganguli

vamsi krishna said...

nice work Akshadh Katyal. You have done wonderful analysis

Akshadh Katyal said...

FOR ALL THOSE WHO CALL ARJUNA INFERIOR TO KARNA,VISIT THIS LINK & FIND OUT THE TRUTH YOURSELF FROM ORIGINAL VEDA VYAS' MAHABHARATA TRANSLATION:

https://www.facebook.com/karnavsarjuna